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In The ZOUD
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7 Things My Mother Gave Me: Day 7 - Substance
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In the final episode of the 7 Things My Mother Gave Me series, I reflect on one of the Jamaican sayings my mother often used to remind us about the difference between noise and substance.
“Empty barrel mek di most noise.” Literally, it means that an empty barrel makes the most noise.
Behind the saying is a deeper lesson: the loudest voices are not always the ones with the greatest substance. Real influence is often revealed not by how loudly we speak, but by the depth of our character, the intention behind our actions, and the value we bring to others.
In this closing reflection, I explore how this proverb connects to the wisdom my mother shared throughout my childhood—and how those lessons continue to shape how I think about progress, relationships, resilience, and the character we build over time.
Because sometimes the most meaningful wisdom we inherit is not material at all - but the principles that guide how we live.
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Welcome to day seven of this seven-day series, Seven Things My Mother Gave Me. This final reflection is about substance. You know, my mother would often remind us as children that there are times when we should only speak when it's necessary or when we have something meaningful to say. Her message was simple: don't speak just for the sake of speaking. And that was usually followed by one of her sayings, empty barrel make the moors noise. And it's so true, an empty barrel will always make more noise than one filled with substance. What my mother was really teaching us is that noise and substance are not the same thing. Sometimes the loudest voices in the room are not necessarily the ones with the deepest understanding. Noise can easily be mistaken for authority, confidence, or even leadership. But real substance shows itself differently. It shows up in thoughtful contributions, in careful listening, and in the willingness to speak when it matters, not simply to feel the silence. Over time I've come to understand that real substance doesn't need to compete with noise. It reveals itself in the depths of our character, the intention behind our actions, and the value we bring to others. Looking back over these past few days, I realized that the greatest value my mother gave me was the wisdom she passed on. Wisdom that continues to shape how I think about progress, relationships, resilience, the choices I make, and the character I continue to build in life. These sayings were never just words, they are the principles by which I live. In closing this series, let me say there is a lot of noise in this world. But let's be intentional about ensuring the noise we make truly matters, and that is using our voices in ways that contribute, uplift others, and reflect the spirit of this year's International Women's Day theme, Give to Gain. Because as my mother would say, empty barrel make the more's nice. Thank you for listening.